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WoW Forever talent changes since Classic Era

WoW Forever’s talents against Classic Era’s

Talents in WoW Forever
470
New
112
Changed
289
As in Classic
69
Classic talents dropped
76

85% of WoW Forever’s 470 talents are new or changed since Classic Era. Read from both game clients: WoW Forever build 1.60.1.70235 against Classic Era build 1.15.9.70003.

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Every tree, talent by talent

Each square is a talent, where WoW Forever’s tree puts it: in colour when it is new or changed, greyed out when Classic Era has it as it is. Rest the mouse on a square for its name; a click opens its page.

  • Warrior38/53 new or changed
    Arms3 new, 7 changed, 7 as in Classic, 4 Classic talents dropped
    Fury3 new, 12 changed, 3 as in Classic, 2 Classic talents dropped
    Protection3 new, 10 changed, 5 as in Classic, 2 Classic talents dropped
  • Paladin45/50 new or changed
    Holy7 new, 8 changed, 2 as in Classic, 4 Classic talents dropped
    Protection5 new, 11 changed, 0 as in Classic, 4 Classic talents dropped
    Retribution6 new, 8 changed, 3 as in Classic, 4 Classic talents dropped
  • Hunter43/52 new or changed
    Beast Mastery2 new, 11 changed, 3 as in Classic, 2 Classic talents dropped
    Marksmanship6 new, 8 changed, 3 as in Classic, 3 Classic talents dropped
    Survival6 new, 10 changed, 3 as in Classic, 4 Classic talents dropped
  • Rogue43/53 new or changed
    Assassination2 new, 12 changed, 3 as in Classic, 0 Classic talents dropped
    Combat2 new, 9 changed, 6 as in Classic, 4 Classic talents dropped
    Subtlety5 new, 13 changed, 1 as in Classic, 3 Classic talents dropped
  • Priest49/54 new or changed
    Discipline7 new, 11 changed, 0 as in Classic, 4 Classic talents dropped
    Holy3 new, 9 changed, 5 as in Classic, 2 Classic talents dropped
    Shadow3 new, 16 changed, 0 as in Classic, 1 Classic talents dropped
  • Shaman45/50 new or changed
    Elemental3 new, 13 changed, 0 as in Classic, 1 Classic talents dropped
    Enhancement6 new, 10 changed, 2 as in Classic, 5 Classic talents dropped
    Restoration3 new, 10 changed, 3 as in Classic, 2 Classic talents dropped
  • Mage39/54 new or changed
    Arcane2 new, 14 changed, 2 as in Classic, 0 Classic talents dropped
    Fire1 new, 9 changed, 7 as in Classic, 0 Classic talents dropped
    Frost2 new, 11 changed, 6 as in Classic, 0 Classic talents dropped
  • Warlock51/52 new or changed
    Affliction6 new, 11 changed, 0 as in Classic, 6 Classic talents dropped
    Demonology7 new, 11 changed, 1 as in Classic, 5 Classic talents dropped
    Destruction5 new, 11 changed, 0 as in Classic, 5 Classic talents dropped
  • Druid48/52 new or changed
    Balance4 new, 11 changed, 1 as in Classic, 4 Classic talents dropped
    Feral Combat7 new, 13 changed, 0 as in Classic, 3 Classic talents dropped
    Restoration3 new, 10 changed, 3 as in Classic, 2 Classic talents dropped

+ new · ~ changed · = as in Classic · − Classic talents the tree dropped · 45/50: a class’s talents new or changed, out of all

The last talent of each tree

15 of the 27 trees now build up to a talent Classic Era never had.

What changed, kind by kind

One talent can change in several ways at once, so a row adds up to more than its changed talents. Wording alone does not count: the two clients’ texts are compared number by number.

ClassChangedNumbersPlaceRanksEffectPer rankTree
Warrior292133523
Paladin2716124400
Hunter2918153400
Rogue3423116602
Priest3619147921
Shaman3316215931
Mage3419178530
Warlock3321318600
Druid3422217602
All classes2891751455154109
Numbers
Other numbers at full rank: damage, healing, duration, cost or chance.
Place
Another row or column in the same tree.
Ranks
More or fewer ranks to put points in.
Effect
The same numbers, another effect: its full-rank text names something Classic’s did not.
Per rank
The same numbers at full rank, reached by other steps from rank to rank.
Tree
Moved to another of the class’s three trees.

About this tool

What WoW Forever changes in the talent trees since Classic Era, read from both game clients: every new, changed and dropped talent of the nine classes, tree by tree, the talent each tree builds to, and the table to download.

Read from both game clients: WoW Forever build 1.60.1.70235, Classic Era build 1.15.9.70003.

Class by class

Warrior9 new · 29 changed · 8 dropped

New in WoW Forever

Changed since Classic

Classic talents gone

  • Axe Specialization · Arms
  • Mace Specialization · Arms
  • Sword Specialization · Arms
  • Polearm Specialization · Arms
  • Improved Demoralizing Shout · Fury
  • Improved Battle Shout · Fury
  • Improved Shield Block · Protection
  • Improved Taunt · Protection

Warrior: each change with Classic’s text

Paladin18 new · 27 changed · 12 dropped

New in WoW Forever

Changed since Classic

Classic talents gone

  • Consecration · HolyNow a class spell, learnt at level 20
  • Improved Lay on Hands · Holy
  • Improved Blessing of Wisdom · Holy
  • Lasting Judgement · Holy
  • Improved Devotion Aura · Protection
  • Blessing of Kings · ProtectionNow a class spell, learnt at level 20
  • Improved Concentration Aura · Protection
  • Blessing of Sanctuary · Protection
  • Improved Blessing of Might · Retribution
  • Improved Seal of the Crusader · Retribution
  • Improved Retribution Aura · Retribution
  • Sanctity Aura · Retribution

Paladin: each change with Classic’s text

Hunter14 new · 29 changed · 9 dropped

New in WoW Forever

Changed since Classic

Classic talents gone

  • Improved Eyes of the Beast · Beast Mastery
  • Thick Hide · Beast Mastery
  • Improved Hunter's Mark · Marksmanship
  • Aimed Shot · MarksmanshipNow a class spell, learnt at level 20
  • Improved Scorpid Sting · Marksmanship
  • Humanoid Slaying · Survival
  • Improved Feign Death · Survival
  • Killer Instinct · Survival
  • Wyvern Sting · Survival

Hunter: each change with Classic’s text

Rogue9 new · 34 changed · 7 dropped

New in WoW Forever

Changed since Classic

Classic talents gone

  • Improved Backstab · Combat
  • Dagger Specialization · Combat
  • Mace Specialization · Combat
  • Fist Weapon Specialization · Combat
  • Sleight of Hand · Subtlety
  • Improved Sap · Subtlety
  • Deadliness · Subtlety

Rogue: each change with Classic’s text

Priest13 new · 36 changed · 7 dropped

New in WoW Forever

Changed since Classic

Classic talents gone

  • Unbreakable Will · Discipline
  • Improved Power Word: Fortitude · Discipline
  • Divine Spirit · DisciplineNow a class spell, learnt at level 30
  • Force of Will · Discipline
  • Improved Prayer of Healing · Holy
  • Lightwell · HolyNow a class spell, learnt at level 40
  • Improved Vampiric Embrace · Shadow

Priest: each change with Classic’s text

Shaman12 new · 33 changed · 8 dropped

New in WoW Forever

Changed since Classic

Classic talents gone

  • Elemental Mastery · Elemental
  • Shield Specialization · Enhancement
  • Enhancing Totems · Enhancement
  • Two-Handed Axes and Maces · Enhancement
  • Improved Weapon Totems · Enhancement
  • Weapon Mastery · Enhancement
  • Nature's Guidance · Restoration
  • Totemic Mastery · Restoration

Shaman: each change with Classic’s text

Mage5 new · 34 changed · 0 dropped

New in WoW Forever

Changed since Classic

Classic talents gone

None: WoW Forever keeps every Classic talent of this class.

Mage: each change with Classic’s text

Warlock18 new · 33 changed · 16 dropped

New in WoW Forever

Changed since Classic

Classic talents gone

  • Improved Curse of Weakness · Affliction
  • Improved Drain Soul · Affliction
  • Grim Reach · Affliction
  • Improved Drain Mana · Affliction
  • Improved Curse of Exhaustion · Affliction
  • Dark Pact · Affliction
  • Improved Healthstone · Demonology
  • Fel Stamina · Demonology
  • Improved Subjugate Demon · Demonology
  • Improved Firestone · Demonology
  • Improved Spellstone · Demonology
  • Improved Firebolt · Destruction
  • Improved Lash of Pain · Destruction
  • Devastation · Destruction
  • Improved Immolate · Destruction
  • Emberstorm · Destruction

Warlock: each change with Classic’s text

Druid14 new · 34 changed · 9 dropped

New in WoW Forever

Changed since Classic

Classic talents gone

  • Nature's Grasp · BalanceNow a class spell, learnt at level 10
  • Natural Weapons · Balance
  • Improved Thorns · Balance
  • Omen of Clarity · BalanceNow a class spell, learnt at level 20
  • Feral Aggression · Feral Combat
  • Blood Frenzy · Feral Combat
  • Faerie Fire (Feral) · Feral Combat
  • Improved Mark of the Wild · Restoration
  • Improved Enrage · Restoration

Druid: each change with Classic’s text

Frequently asked questions

How many talents changed in WoW Forever?
85% of them. Of WoW Forever’s 470 talents, 112 are new and 289 have changed since Classic Era; 69 are as in Classic. WoW Forever also drops 76 Classic talents. The counts compare both game clients: WoW Forever build 1.60.1.70235 and Classic Era build 1.15.9.70003.
Which class changes the most?
Warlock: 51 of its 52 talents are new or changed. Warrior changes the least, with 38 of 53. Warlock drops the most Classic talents: 16. Mage keeps every Classic talent it had.
Which Classic talents does WoW Forever remove?
76 Classic talents are no longer in the trees; “Class by class” on this page names each of them. 7 of them are now class spells every member of the class learns: Consecration (Paladin, level 20), Blessing of Kings (Paladin, level 20), Aimed Shot (Hunter, level 20), Divine Spirit (Priest, level 30), Lightwell (Priest, level 40), Nature's Grasp (Druid, level 10), and Omen of Clarity (Druid, level 20).
Which trees get a new final talent?
15 of the 27 trees now build up to a talent Classic Era never had: Light's Vigil (Paladin, Holy), Twist of Light (Paladin, Retribution), Sniper Shot (Hunter, Marksmanship), Lacerating Strikes (Hunter, Survival), Venom (Rogue, Assassination), Thousand Cuts (Rogue, Subtlety), Prayer of Mending (Priest, Holy), Lava Burst (Shaman, Elemental), Rage of the Farseer (Shaman, Enhancement), Riptide (Shaman, Restoration), Wrack (Warlock, Affliction), Demonic Pact (Warlock, Demonology), Incinerate (Warlock, Destruction), Berserk (Druid, Feral Combat), and Wild Growth (Druid, Restoration).

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